Yo me apuntaría a un pedido de pegatinas , contad conmigo que aunque sea de Vigo, los gastos de envío en formato carta certificada no serán muy altos.

Un saludo y ya direis.

PD: la idea de cambiar el título del hilo y ponerlo en la misma lista de pedidos que donde está el de las fundas de tamaño especial facilitaría que la gente se enterase.

La resolución de video o de imagen??

Cita de: Gelete en 06 de Febrero de 2009, 10:11:37

No, son pastis azules para no se que juego, a mi lo que me parece es que Ikarus pasa mandanga y Jsper se va a Valencia los findes a ponerse hasta los topes, pero según ellos es para no se que juego, y eso que sale cierto polvillo blanco de dentro de las fichas que no sé....

Los dados los tengo ya, grcais César.

Soy un agente de la brigada de estupefaccientes de la Guardia Civil, y quería comentaros que estos mensajes están siendo registrados.

Pues es una pena que no diesen antes la noticia, ya que lo he comprado en inglés al igual del Dominion.

Es bueno que se saquen juegos en español, sobre todo de la calidad de las últimas publicaciones.  La pena es que gente como yo, que compran las novedades casi en cuanto se publican, acaben teniendo los juegos en inglés porque la publicación en español se anuncia demasiado tarde.

En la página web de Devir ya tienen colgadas la reglas de este juego en Español.

Ficha en Bgg
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27848/age-of-conan-the-strategy-board-game

Descarga del reglamento y página oficial de Devir
http://www.devir.es/producto/la-era-de-conan

Cita de: OZIMANDIAS en 14 de Enero de 2009, 08:15:11
Yo ya hice mi pedido a Planeton 

Yo he hecho lo mismo, de aqui a Mayo creo que habré jugado alguna que otra partida  .

Planetongames ha anunciado que recibirá este juego a lo largo de esta semana.

Estaría bien tener el reglamento traducido, así que cuando lo tengas, Eduvidal no dudes en compartirlo. 

Un trabajo buenísimo, muchas gracias.

Existe una traducción del reglamento al español?

Un trabajo soberbio  , el artículo no es precisamente corto, se agradece el esfuerzo.

Estoy deseando echarle el ojo a la continuación.

Y como se decide el que comienza en este juego?
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/14132 

Another example: You make an Investment Credits on turn 1, and there was no settle phase. In your hand you have a helpful development (say an Interstellar Bank, or a Military development with a military world it can conquer in your hand). You also have a decent windfall or production world in your hand that you want to make. Develop, don't Settle! Developing presses your advantage, and your opponents probably cant use a second develop. Settling lets your opponents play something potentially strong, and then start using other phases more effectively than you.


When your tableau's capacity is stronger than your opponents, USE IT, don't just settle or develop more and let them potentially catch up. Instead use it, and then if they develop/settle, you can build your stuff to maintain your lead.

If you don't have anything strong to build in your hand (or can't afford it), explore. Do not develop or settle a lesser card that doesn't help you enough. Try to get a strong play, or else your opponents will gain on you in board position.

Only develop/settle/produce when its best for you (your play is strong, or you make the most). And when it is best for you, do it. (If produce helps say, you and one other opponent out of 4 a lot, and doesn't help the others, still probably do it. You can't afford for the two of you to not use your setup while the others catch up or gain an advantage in other areas)


Choosing a Role

For most of the roles, the advantage of choosing that role is +1 thing (card or good), and making the role happen. For Consume, the advantage is several cards for Trade, or later several VPs with 2xVPs.

The result is that it's better for you to Consume, and have someone else pick the other role you want, than anything else. This can make it a good strategy to choose Trade, hoping an opponent will settle and you can play a windfall world, if you have good reason to believe someone will settle. It also means you need to be extra wary of early settles that aren't very beneficial to you, as it could allow an opponent's trade that turn.

Past the beginning of the game, the main benefit of a role choice is making the role happen that helps you more than others. You should look at which strategies your opponents are pursuing, and then plan to not (or almost never) choose the roles that are for their strategy and not yours. You should save plays that you have for that phase, such as develops/settles, and then just play them when they happen. Don't make them happen yourself, it just helps your opponent's strategy, while you don't make progress on yours. Only when you are very desperate to build the card should you do it yourself, if that role is part of an opponent's strategy.

Say you are playing a production strategy and an opponent is playing military. You have a couple production worlds in play and several more in your hand. You should NOT plan on playing all those production worlds or work at making it happen. Do your produce /consume thing that's only helping you instead, and when your opponent settles, expand your engine. If you settle, your opponent might have explored or traded, and you just help them to get free stuff while not scoring points for yourself.

This also means that you should make sure you can afford to make your play when your opponent does choose their role. You don't want to miss it and then need to force it yourself later. Develop your 6 building when your develop strategy opponent picks develop, so you don't have to pick it for yourself at the end.


Role Streaks
(I think this part is especially important, and I haven't really seen it discussed yet).

Going along with focusing on your role and avoiding your opponents, it can be very beneficial to play the same type of role that you several times in a row, and then play another one that you need several times in a row.

For example, say you are playing a military strategy. You could do several turns of exploring/trading in a row, to build a good hand, and then several settles in a row, to play them out. When you aren't settling, your opponents are probably avoiding it, expecting you to do it, and it is starving them on world building opportunities. This might make them pick settle for you, giving you both roles you want. Then when you settle several times, they might run out of cards after the first one or two, and miss opportunities. This tends to work better than something like a settle/trade/settle/trade alternation, where your opponents have cards each time you do it.

The same thing applies to a development strategy. When you develop, do it several times in a row to run your opponents out of money, and when you explore or trade for funds, try to do several of those in a row to frustrate an opponent who wants to develop.

Try to time your develop or settle streak right before people get a big trade off, and your streak of starving them out of that role (while you raise money) for after their trade. You build before they get their money, and then you leave them with the money burning a hole in their pocket, and not enough chances to spend it. For example, say youre doing a development discount strategy:

Turn A you develop. Produce was also chosen. Your opponents blow their money developing and then everyone gets goods.
Turn B you develop, while others trade! You make another development for cheap and others sit there and are broke. Then they all get money, you have your good left.
Turn C you trade. Others might develop to spend their big cash inflows (you build a cheap thing), or they might sit there and be annoyed that you didn't choose develop. Say they didn't develop.
Turn D you explore and find another 6 building. Others sit there annoyed that they still can't spend their money from the trade yet, or else the picked it themselves and help you.

Same thing works with a military strategy for settling. You alternate between starving them out of a role so they can't spend money or build their position, and then you do it too much, so they cant take advantage of all of them.

This can work especially well in 2 player where you can pick two develops or settles in a turn! Doing these role streaks can force your opponents to pick roles that help you, while you do things at the wrong time for them.


The Opening:

In the opening you want to get cards, and develop strong, versatile cards to begin your strategy. You won't have committed to a strategy yet, you're trying to find the cards which will give you all the pieces you need for one of the strategies. (Either development discounts + good 6s, Military + big military worlds, Trading + Deficit Spending or Merchant World, or Production capacity + Consume powers). Income is your main focus, and whatever you build will either be the start of your strategy, or a good leech/supporting strategy.

DON'T explore if you have something strong to do already, instead do it.
DON'T develop if your play isn't strong (like a development discount, military card/contact specialist that lets you build a good military world in your hand, replicant robots, colony ship into something awesome like lost species arc world, etc).
DON'T settle if your play isn't VERY strong (gene/alien windfall, great production world like Lost Species, etc) you give others windfall trade chances.
DON'T produce unless it helps you much more than a couple opponents.
DO trade pretty much any time you have a good.


The Midgame:

Build and execute the strategy that you found the cards for. Try to maintain the ability to build in develop and settle phase if possible. Try to avoid the roles of your opponents' strategy, and focus on your role plus income roles (explore/trade). Try to play role streaks, alternating couple roles of your role with a couple income roles, to frustrate opponents, make them unable to build during your phases, and cause them to pick your role instead of their own.

Develop strategy: Alternate between multiple develops in a row and multiple explore/trades.
Military strategy: Alternate between multiple settles and multiple explore/trades. Try to do explores and trades first so as not to help producers set up their production capacity too early.
Trade strategy: Keep trading as much as you can, maintaining less consume powers than production so that you can trade more than once before you would need to choose produce. (Hopefully someone will choose it again before you would have to). Try to blow as much money as possible on big point scorers when your opponents develop or settle, so that you don't reach hand capacity issues and have to pick those roles yourself.
Production Strategy: Get your engine set up fast and then produce/consume constantly. Favor worlds or consumption cards that also make cards, so you'll be able to afford to keep doing stuff on opponent develops/settles.


The Endgame:

You generally want to end the game before your opponents, so push hard on your strategy (keep doing your role and don't get distracted from it!).

Based on the number of spots left in people's tableaus, you might be able to see that you don't have time to build certain developments or worlds that you had planned on. Just let them go and build them for money. Also, in these cases choose the big scorers first, throwing away the littler scorers that you don't have time for to pay for them. When you cant choose between a beneficial, cheaper, moderate scoring card, and a bigger, expensive, high scoring card, pick the high scoring card! Because you might draw another high scoring card off a trade or explore, and then you can build both big ones instead of a big and a small.

One trick that can end the game unexpectedly is for a player with Deficit Spending or Merchant World to pick consume (with nobody having goods), throwing away a couple cards for the last VPs. Also, near the end of the game, hold onto a windfall world, so that if someone settles at the end you can play it and consume the good (with your 2xVPs perhaps). This can also cause a surprise end to the game. Alien Windfall worlds are worth a lot of points and are especially good for this. When discarding, try to hold on to a mixture of cards of different costs, so you'll have something to play for whatever happens.


Como ves es bastante largo , ahora a ver si alguien se anima a traducirlo  .

Saludos y espero que te sirva de ayuda.

General Hand Management:

When discarding cards to pay for something, if you're going to have a number of cards left over, be careful to keep versatile cards. For example, if you're doing a production strategy, and you have several production worlds and a couple developments in your hand, don't just discard all the developments to pay for something. You probably don't need all those production worlds, and it's more helpful to keep a development that you might want instead.

When you're able to keep a lot of cards after paying for something, there are some cards that are generally good to hold onto (beyond the cards you know you want to make as future plays) when choosing what to discard, due to their versatility. For example:

Development discount buildings: Investment Credits/Public Works/Interstellar Bank. These are very cheap and thus easy to play when an opponent develops, and you don't have anything else to do. They are pretty universally helpful.

Colony Ship/New Military tactics: These could allow you to take advantage of opponents develop and settle phases that you otherwise couldn't really afford. Or with the colony ship, you could choose settle, desperate to get a certain expensive world down, and hope an opponent develops, allow you to get it cheaper using the ship. They can be a nice way to upgrade your play in the settle phase, if a develop also happened.

Contact Specialist: Contact Specialist is very cheap, and is kindof like the better version of new military tactics, to the non-military player. It has broad uses, from getting very cheap windfalls, to buying big scoring rebel worlds, to scoring with Pan-Galactic League.

Very cheap production worlds: Lets you do something on that settle, and get a cheap leech.

Alien Windfall Worlds/Terraformed world: It can be good to hang on to these in case you end up with a bunch of cards, and a settle comes up. Gives you more ways to convert cards to points. These are especially good for a development or trading strategy that gets lots of cards and doesn't have enough ways to spend them.


Keeping different, versatile cards, and cards in different price ranges, can help you to more often be able to take advantage of the roles your opponents choose. It's a good idea to maintain possible plays, especially cheap but useful plays,


Leeching:

You want to make the roles that your opponents are picking benefit you as well. Doing so limits their ability to make a gain over you,

A Leech is abilities that work for some phase that isn't a phase you are primarily choosing for your strategy, but while opponents are choosing for theirs.

Various leeches:

Development: Investment Credits/PublicWorks/Interstellar Bank. (Bank is the best leech).
Settle: Replicant Robots, Terraforming Robots, Contact Specialist, Small military (for making free windfall worlds). Replicant Robots is an Extremely strong settler phase leech.
Consume/Produce: Deficit Spending/Merchant World, Trade League, Worlds and Consume powers that make cards in some way. Also, a consume power when youre doing a military strategy with lots of windfalls.

When developing a leech, do NOT make it in an area that no opponent is using as their main strategy! Thus:
Do not build midgame development discount buildings if no one is doing a development discount strategy!
Do not build stuff like Replicant robots, or military, if no one else is going military (unless youre planning to settle constantly yourself).
Do not build production/consumption stuff if no one else is (unless you want to go into a production strategy yourself).

Leeching and hand management will allow you to make use of the roles your opponents choose, so that you limit their ability to gain on you.


The other role: Explore

There are many effects of choosing Explore. The obvious one is getting more cards so that you can afford to build your stuff (or afford to build it without discarding something critical). It also improves everyone's potential plays by giving them more options. This means that if a lot of exploring is happening, it is more critical to make sure the builds you make are strong ones, instead of just ‘anything helpful'. Also, exploring early on slows down the game (less develops/settles/produces because you aren't picking them). Because the phases that let you build aren't happening as much, people cant get their strategies set up as fast, so it makes the opening phase of the game longer.

Early on, if you are thinking about choosing develop or settle, to make something that doesn't have a strong impact on the game, its probably better to explore. Your develop/settle for something average might allow an opponent to play something strong, and thus cause you to fall behind. Develop or settle when you know the thing you are doing is good, and thus will set you up with a better position than your opponents.

For example: Do NOT settle to build a random blue or brown (non-military) windfall world, or small production world (as your first production world). Doing so will often just allow an opponent to make a better windfall or production world, and possibly even trade a windfall that turn! Save that cheap play for a time your opponent picks it and you cant afford something better.

Do NOT develop to build some development of minor benefit like an export duties, terraforming robots, an engine card you cant use yet, new military tactics/colony ship that you don't have a strong world for yet, etc. You'll probably help someone else do something better. (Development discount buildings on the other hand are great…and with them you plan to develop repeatedly while your opponents can utilize all the develops). Save that cheap thing to use as a play for when your opponent picks it.

If you DO have a strong early play, like a development discount card, an alien or gene windfall world, or production capacity when your opponents don't have it, build or use that! Don't explore and let your opponents find something strong also.


The purpose of explore +1/+1:
Almost exclusively an early game play.
Early income.
Helps with hand management, to afford something and keep future plays.
Gives you more time to find a strong play before develops/settles happen, so you won't fall behind your opponents.

The purpose of explore +5:
Generally a midgame or possibly endgame play.
Finds big scoring cards, good when you have lots of cards, but don't have something big to do with them, its better than explore +1/+1 if you have plenty of cards, and need a way to score points.


Pressing your advantage / Catching up when behind

When you have an early advantage in terms of the capacity of your board position to do something helpful. You need to use it.

Lets say that at the beginning of the game, you build a strong windfall world and traded, while your opponents built less useful things. Don't choose Develop or Settle to make some relatively minor, cheap thing, that helps you a small amount! Instead, keep working on pushing forward your main strategy and getting money, and save that play for a time when an opponent chooses that role, so you'll have something beneficial to play then!

Another example: Lets say that early on in a game you have a good in play, and in your hand you have a trade bonus like export duties, or a world that gives a bonus to that color. You opponents don't have production capacity. Here, you should just focus on trading and producing that good, instead of building/settling your trade bonus! If your opponents don't develop/settle, they aren't developing their positions while you get to gain income to prepare for the future. If they do develop/settle, you get to play down your bonus, and save tempo! Doing produce/consume presses your advantage, building something allows your opponents to catch up.

Capitulo 5

Production Strategy:

You make worlds which produce goods, and some consume powers, and then alternate between producing and choosing Consume: 2xVPs.

Cards that make it strong: ‘Engine' cards that consume multiple goods and possibly provide other advantages are a very efficient way to get a consumption strategy going. Consumer Markets, Diversified Economy, and Mining Conglomerate all consume multiple goods of certain type and produce cards. Tourist World and Galactic Trendsetters consume goods for bonus VPs over what you usually get. Cheap Production worlds, and Replicant Robots will help you be able to afford to get going quickly. Many 6 developments such as Merchant World, Free-Trade Association, Mining League, Galactic renaissance, Seti, New Economy, and Tradue League support a production strategy.

How to play it well: Get your production set up quickly, not missing settle opportunities. Once you get set up, stop choosing Develop or Settle, and instead do Produce/Consume. If you get set up first, you can run your engine and gain a lead over the others. Do it. Force them to choose settle or develop in order to try and catch up to you in production/consumption powers, and when they do, spend your cards. It is much better to be able to produce cards while doing your cycle, through worlds or developments that make cards when you produce, and/or consumption powers that make cards. For example, a Comet Zone, Mining World, and Mining Conglomerate are far, far better than a couple Prosperous Worlds.

If you don't make cards during your Produce/Consume cycle, you wont be able to grow or afford big scoring cards. A quick setup like this can win, but you need to race the VP pile and hope the game ends before others can catch up to your early lead. If you do make cards during your cycle, then you can score almost as many points during develop and settle as your opponents, making it very hard to overcome your gain from the production cycle.

Making one windfall world is good, it lets you use your production phase bonus, and gives you an early trade. Making two windfall worlds is bad unless you got something that produces onto one of them.

How other strategies work as a secondary boost to it:
Development: Many developments have useful consume powers, and many 6 buildings score well for a production strategy.
Military: Military isn't really helpful to a primarily production strategy. Its kindof a waste of settle phases that could've been increasing your intake from produce/consume.
Trade: You'll often trade early on in a Production strategy, so trade bonuses are good early, but not late. Deficit Spending/Merchant World aren't very helpful when you're only consuming on half the turns, choosing 2xVPs and don't have a bunch of extra cards. While production is a good second to a trading strategy, trading bonuses don't really help a consume strategy later on. Trade League, however, is very strong.


Summary of the general strength of supporting (hybrid/secondary) strategies, to your main strategy:

Primary Strat:
(Development): Military: ok. Trade: strong. Production: ok.
(Military): Development: ok. Trade: strong. Production: bad.
(Trade): Development: ok. Military: strong. Production: ok.
(Production): Development: ok. Military: bad. Trade: good early/bad late.


Summarized Strategy advice:

Early trading (windfall/trade bonus) is always good. Trading for income supports all strategies well and keeps your options open. To use trading as more than a support strategy, you should get deficit spending or merchant worlds, and get a set up where you can consume more than once per production cycle.

A production strategy should mostly focus on making its engine fast (worlds to produce, and developments/worlds to consume). It should prioritize cards that both make cards and produce or consume. It focuses less on its secondary/hybrid strategies than any of the others. It should not be combined with military.

Early development discount/rebate cards are strong and versatile. They can either support a development strategy or help out any of the other strategies.

Military strategies are much more concerned with hoarding strong future plays than any of the others. A military strategy should only choose settle a moderate amount of times early on (to limit opponent's production setup), and should work on trading, exploring, and building up a hand of high scoring cards to play in the future. Like a trade strategy, and unlike a production strategy, settling a bunch of windfall worlds is fine.


Hand Management, by strategy

Hand management is different for the different strategies.

Development Strategy: Generally you won't have many hand issues, since stuff is very cheap for you. You should hold 6 cost developments that might be of use to you, but almost anything else is discardable. When discarding, try to maintain versatility in the cards you have left, such as keeping a development, and worlds that are different from each other, to react to different situations. You don't need to stockpile future plays very much, basically just 6 buildings.

Military Strategy: You must stockpile future plays, or you'll find yourself without ways to score later on. Don't discard your big scorers while setting up your military, or you'll be screwed. It's better to wait and get more cards, and then create your setup, with those military cards remaining in your hand. Throwing away extra little military windfall worlds is fine. Don't throw away the big scorers. If you get to the point where you have a bunch of big scoring alien/rebel military cards and/or 6 buildings that are good for you, you need to start getting them on the table. If your hand fills with these you wont be able to build anything. It can definitely be worth it to trade a big good and go from say, 7 cards to 12, losing a couple cards in the discard, if it allows you to then play your 6 building without losing your big military scoring worlds. If you have a number of military worlds in your hand, don't be afraid to treat the small ones as money.

Trading Strategy: You care the least about holding future plays of any strategy. You generate a ton of cards, so you'll probably get something to play later. Try to keep playing big scoring cards whenever you can, to get your handsize back down, and avoid discarding. For example, Terraformed World, Alien windfall worlds, and big Rebel worlds if you have contact specialist, are really good for this strategy, start trying to get them down midgame. If you have a choice between building an expensive/high point card which doesn't grow your economy, and a small card which grows it by a little, like a small trade bonus, you should almost always choose the big scoring card. This will lower your handsize so you can take full advantage of your next trade, and gets the points onto your board. (Deficit Spending or Merchant World is the exception).

Production strategy: You care a moderate amount about stockpiling future moves, since you want to hold onto 6's that help you, your engine card (until you get one into play), and production worlds. If you need to discard good future plays to get out an important world, or your engine card, do it. But it might be better to explore and hope someone else picks the develop or settle, so you can hold onto some future cards. More cards work for your strategy than any other, so if you discard stuff you want to make something that will generate cards, its ok.
Capitulo 4

Trading Strategy:

You make trades for huge numbers of cards, and then purchase large scoring developments and worlds, as well as discarding cards for VPs through Deficit spending and/or merchant world.

Cards that make it strong: Deficit Spending and Merchant world are amazing, as without them this strategy tends to waste many cards through hand-limit discards. Trade bonuses, especially large bonuses to a certain good that you can produce, are very helpful. Trade League and New Economy tend to do very well here, along with some other 6's. Contact Specialist is also good in this strategy, allowing more cheap windfall worlds to give you trade goods, as well as providing more opportunities to get big scoring worlds in the rebel worlds.

How to play it well: Create a setup where you can trade multiple times per production cycle. Produce/Trade/Produce/Trade helps others way too much. Product/Trade/Trade is better, while just Trading and not needing to produce (getting goods off other's produce + played windfalls), is the best way to go. This means that you want to have at least 2 more production capacity than you have consume powers, so that after a production you can trade and still have a good left to trade again on the next turn. If someone else is alternating produce/consume, you will be able to choose trade every turn. This makes Deficit Spending/Merchant World insanely strong, as each one thus provides 4 vps per cycle of produce/consume that others get to do. That balances out two production/consumption worlds of your opponents! Another good way to go is to alternate between trading and spending your cards on big stuff, waiting for opponents to produce.

How other strategies work as a secondary boost to it:
Development: Putting together a combination of developments and worlds with trade powers and consumer powers, and 6 buildings like Trade League, New Economy, and Galactic Federation is incredibly strong. However, develop discounts probably wont be very important when you are trading for a full hand each turn, you'll just discard cards.
Military: Generates more windfall worlds for you to sell, and the military worlds
Production: An early trade strategy can often morph into a production strategy by getting consume powers and switching to 2xVPs. Also a Trade League will allow you to make both a trade and choose 2xVPs.

Capitulo 3