Yo donde le veo mas fallo es que las cartas de encrucijada son tan especificas que muchas veces no cumples el requisito para activarlas. Y pasa la ronda entera sin haber activado ninguna. Me hubiera gustado que hubieran sido mas genericas y se activaran mas a menudo, montandose una historia atrayente.

Estoy pensando pillar dos por jugador y elegir la que se cumpla el requisito y si son las dos pues la primera que se pillò.

Saludos.

Yo soy el Childres y me cabreaba, porque estan haciendo que algunos se bajen del kickstarter sin tener nada atado.

Saludos.

Segùn entiendo se refiere a que "quiere"sacar Gloomhaven en Español. Hasta que no diga "voy" a sacar el Gloomhaven en Español no hay por què dar las campanadas al vuelo, que parece esto el Salvame deluxe!!!!.

Saludos.

Cita de: kalisto59 en 21 de Abril de 2017, 21:23:41
Me voy a la bgg a descargarme el libro de escenarios en solitario, ya me habéis picado😉

Enviado desde mi Redmi 3S mediante Tapatalk

Yo tb!!!!, que copion soy joder....

Cita de: Delan en 21 de Abril de 2017, 09:47:48
Yo no juego a mage knight sin volkare asi de claro. Una vez lo pruebas... maldito bastardo que dificil es. XD

Perilla yo tento el de star trek y me gusta mas que el normal. Soy un trekkie de cojones y eso influye pero lo siento mas tematico.
Son demasiado similares.para tener los dos asi que vendi el MK.con eso te lo digo to.

Oh my god!!!, el hype me acaba de saltar al hiperespacio!!!!

Cita de: lluribumbu en 21 de Abril de 2017, 14:27:47
Hombre, yo tambien prefiero una campaña con todo inalterado, sino estas desechando opciones. Mas adelante ya se probara a hacer una donde muchas cosas esten despejadas. Yo estoy buscando minis en e-minis para adaptar, que coger una de otro juego no acabo de conseguir la inmersion que busco.

Quizas se refiere a minis para los personajes, porque tenga la version de todo en carton.

Si no se tienen las originales las del black plague van bien (segun las expansiones q tengas).

Saludos

Dillinguer, hasta que no pidas perdòn por haber dicho esto: "Por ahora no me ha parecido más excitante o mejor que un Zombicide" no te contesto a ninguna pregunta XD!!!!

Alguien le ha dado al Star Trekk frontier, la version trekkie del Mage Knight?.

Que lo tengo precintado todavia y necesito Hype!!!!

Pues yo me quedo con la segunda edicion. Estoy muy mayor ya para el sept up de la primera y aguantar el "todos contra ti". El elemento que añade de exploracion mola mucho y las partidas a las sucesivas historias, mejoran muy mucho con respecto a la primera historia.
La clave de este juego creo que està en lo que busque cada uno, un "todos contra uno" (primera edicion) o un cooperativo (2a edicion). No veo uno mejor que otro porque aunque comparten mucho los veo distintos.

Muy buena reseña Calvo y saludos.

Cita de: kalisto59 en 20 de Abril de 2017, 10:35:46
Perdon por el doble post.

LOS CAMBIOS OFICIALES DE LA REIMPRESION CON RESPECTO A LA VERSION PRIMERA DE GLOOMHAVEN:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1761512/official-second-printing-change-log

Lo pego a continuacion en ingles:

So first off, I'd like to talk about the overall nature of these changes. In general, the changes could be sorted into the following categories:

1. Typo fixes
2. Clarifications
3. Physical component changes
4. Balancing (quality of life)

1 & 2. Now, typo fixes and clarifications are confined mainly to the rule book and scenario books. Clarifications include a lot of rewording of the rule book text to give people a quicker understanding of the rules. Typos include the addition and changing of some of the achievements in the scenario book to cover up some loopholes that left people in weird, unintended situations.

I won't cover all the small typo fixes in the books or event cards, or any of the many changes in the rule book. This thread has the rule book pretty well covered, and you can always get a PDF of the new versions of the rules and scenario book here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8ppELln5Z0rdEFIWl9a...

I will, however, try to cover all the achievement changes in the scenario book. I also will cover the major typo changes on ability cards. And I will cover clarifications made to item and ability cards.

3. Physical component changes are pretty simple to explain, and I will do so here. The major one is the HP/EXP dials and subsequent redesign on the character mats. If you want the dials, you can get them from the Kickstarter, but there will be no way to get the new mats, as I don't feel the change is significant enough to warrant charging people to replace them. Here is a side-by-side comparison of the two versions of the Brute's mats (ignore the difference in lighting effects).




We are also reinforcing the box to make it less prone to splitting in the seams. As a physical component upgrade, printing off empty boxes to send to people would end up costing you heavily because of the size, so I decided against making this available for the Kickstarter as well.

Finally, we are changing the plastic stands, as there have been complaints about the old ones. I initially chose the triangle stands from the first printing because they are the best for reducing wear on the stands themselves because they clip on. They are very large, though, covering up a significant portion of the standees, and aren't quite calibrated to the thickness of the stands, and if you don't know how to use them properly or get a bad batch, they can break easily. I decided it was worth it to switch to something smaller, more durable, and better fitting. Here is a picture of what they look like:



These are not available separately as part of the Kickstarter campaign, but you can find equivalent quality stands here: https://www.spielematerial.de/en/standfuesse-variabel-farbig... and here: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/fantasy-fligh... (though you'll have to paint these). I have heard they both work great. They are not exact replicas, though. If someone can find a website selling exact replicas, let me know (dimensions are 19mm x 19mm x 11mm).

4. And then we get to balancing stuff. I really even hate to use the word "balance," as it implies a level of imbalance to start. I think "quality of life" is a better term. For instance, there is nothing imbalanced about the original prosperity track, but I decided that more people would just be happier if it went a little faster, so I decreased the number of boxes. Or it was just sort of annoying how the Cragheart's Unstable Upheaval went from being a melee attack to a ranged attack when you consumed earth, so I changed it to be less annoying.

Yes, there are some strict balancing changes to make the characters a little more equal, but I wouldn't consider the changes to be monumental or game breaking. Just some small tweaks here and there.

The main thing I want to stress here, and I really can't stress it strongly enough, is that the game you have in front of you right now is in no way made invalid by these types of changes. I think there are thousands of people who would agree that the game is pretty fantastic. At least that's what I can gather from all the high ratings.

Does knowledge of these small balancing tweaks really suddenly make the game less fun for you than it was a week ago? Please just seriously think about the question.

Moreover, keep in mind that these are not the correct versions of the cards for the first printing. I am not suggesting that you implement any of these changes. I was asked what the changes were, and I am simply obliging that request.

With all of that said, I guess it is time to document them all.

Main board:
The prosperity level track was reduced by one box for each level. So instead of 5, 6, 7, etc., it is now 4, 5, 6, etc.

Punchboards:
The curse and bless square tokens were replaced by extra poison, wound, and muddle tokens. (The original curse and bless tokens had no function.)
The 10 exp tokens were replaced by "scenario aid" tokens which look similar to the red circle numbered and lettered icons in the rule book. These can be used to help track various effects and triggers in a scenario but are not at all necessary for play.

Scenario book: (these can all be seen in the link above)
p2: Cragheart suggested items changed
p6: Slight tweak to the setup of archers and shaman for lower player counts to make sure an elite always starts on the board.
p7: Reduction of difficulty in two rooms, so there is a more natural progression of difficulty from the starting scenarios to this one.
p8: Changed Living Corpses to Living Bones to reduce the overall tracking required by the scenario.
p13: Added more Vermlings to the map and increased the boss's Special 1 to increase the difficulty of the scenario.
p14: Fixed the numbering on the treasure tile (11 instead of 55).
p14: Changed the name of achievement requirement to close an achievement loophole.
p16: Fixed both boss special mistakes.
p16&17 Added item 113 design to the rewards.
p24: Reduced the number of Vermlings in the last room to slightly reduce the difficulty.
p26: Fixed boss special omission.
p28: Changed the name of achievement requirement to close an achievement loophole.
p29: Changed the name of global achievement to close an achievement loophole.
p34: Defined escaping.
p35: Changed mechanics of how to cleanse water pumps to reduce difficulty.
p37: Changed the name of global achievement to close an achievement loophole. Also added a prosperity reward.
p44: Defined escaping.
p45: Specified that the boss is immune to forced movement. Also added a lost achievement to close an achievement loophole.
p46&47: Changed the name of achievement requirement to close an achievement loophole.
p47: Removed superfluous boss special.
p48: Changed the name of global achievement to close an achievement loophole.
p49: Defined escape.
p56: Added missing global achievement.
p60: Added achievement requirement to close an achievement loophole.
p62: Specified that the boss is immune to forced movement.
p69: Made it easier to the loot the treasure tiles.
p77: Reduced number of drakes to reduce difficulty.
p78: Made treasure tiles easier to loot to reduce difficulty. Also defined escaping.
p88: Reworded special rules for clarity.
p90: Made it easier to wake up the sleeping drakes. Also defined escaping.
p92: Slightly reduced enemy counts to reduce difficulty.
p101: Clarified boss specials.
p115: Changed Icestorm to Lavaflow, just because that enemy type wasn't represented enough.
p119-121: Added "gain" to treasure tile reward descriptions in all cases where the looter immediately gains something.

Sticker sheets:
Global achievements: Combined "The Demon Dethroned" and "The Rift Closed" into a single achievement "The Rift Neutralized," as it was causing many problems that they were separate. To fix this problem in the first printing, just use either one (whichever you gain first) as a representation of both for scenario requirements. It is still possible to gain this achievement twice, but if you have it once, you can't earn it again.

Battle goals:
Just typo fixes.

Personal quests:
513: Reduced the number of kills needed to 8.
514: Reduced the number of triggers required to 12.
516: Reduced the number of kills needed to 15.
521: Reduced number of scenarios required to 3.
522: Reduced number of scenarios required to 6.
523: Reduced number of kills required (one of each instead of two).
526: Reduced number of scenarios required to 4.
530: Reduced the number of enhancements required to 4.
533: Reduced the number of kills required (three of each instead of four)

City Events:
All of the following events were changed to include requirements for having enough money, using the "Pay X gold:" conditional statement:
02: Otherwise return card to deck
03: Otherwise return card to deck
08: Otherwise return card to deck
11: Otherwise remove card and lose 1 reputation
15: Otherwise remove card and lose 1 check
16: Otherwise remove card
19: If you don't have the money for the top part, read the bottom part
41: Otherwise return card to deck
43: Otherwise read outcome B
48: Otherwise remove card
57: Otherwise remove card
66: Otherwise read outcome B
67: Otherwise read outcome B

Road Events:
28: If you can't pay the potion for outcome A, read outcome B.
35: If you can't pay the gold for outcome B, read outcome A.

Monster stats:
Spitting Drake: Reduced level 0 elites' attack to 4.
Scenario 46 Boss: "Summon P eggs" changed to "Summon C eggs."

Monster ability cards:
648: Added "+"s to the top ability.
679, 591, 590, and 713: Heal abilities all specify "range 3."

Attack mods:
110: Added rolling icon.

Items:
Item 107: Movement requirement for bonus increased to 4.

Character sheets:
Cragheart and Mindthief: Changed "negative dungeon effects" to "negative scenario effects."

Character ability cards:



088: Removed 1st and 3rd exp from the bottom ability charges.
099: Changed move 4 to move 2 on bottom.
106: Removed one exp from the bottom, giving exp on the 2nd, 4th and 6th charges.



151: Fixed typo on top (Changed to "on your melee attacks").
164: Removed hit point limit on the top kill power.



067: Removed the exp on bottom.



118: Clarified placement of obstacles on bottom.
123: Top is no longer a ranged attack when earth is consumed.
134: Clarified damage of top ability.

No he puesto los spoilers.

Y de arreglar el Craigheart enano nada de nada, muy mal Isaac!!!!...

Tomo nota de los demàs arreglos, gracias.Kalisto.

Cita de: natx17 en 20 de Abril de 2017, 09:55:10
Por mi parte, partidaza a este monstruo realmente adictivo!



Qué juegazo...

Muy bueno, a ver si me pongo con la versión de Star Trek, que me da pereza leer el reglamento sin traducir!!!

Cita de: Robert Blake en 20 de Abril de 2017, 08:45:54
Ojo, que a mí The witcher me parece un juego mediocre pero no me aburre, y en cambio Zombicide me parece regulero pero muy cansino y monótono.

Eso es porque no lo has jugado conmigo, Robert!!!

Siempre piden , siempre piden querido Ananda...

Saludos

Cita de: Delan en 19 de Abril de 2017, 21:55:46
Diales? A mi me prometio el founders of gloomhaven XD

Jodio Childres, me la metio doblà...

Cita de: crog en 19 de Abril de 2017, 20:21:05
Parece que te está gustando el juego, jeje. A ese precio es un chollo, si mal no recuerdo en el kikstarter que hicieron salía a unos 200 euros...
Yo dudé con hacerme con la otra copia de juegame, pero es demasiada caja, el juego no me cabría desplegado en mesa y los vehículos en 3D cartón no es que me hicieran mucha gracia.
Por vacilar un poco, sabes que existe el ogre pocket? La reedición del original y que no cuesta más queunos 5 euros? 

A ver si saco un hueco para ponerme con el Thunderbolt Apache Leader y con la variante que estoy creando para el Arctic Scavengers....

Un saludo.

Jajajajaja si conocia el ogre pocket, pero no pude resistirme al precio, ademas que no tenia claro si el pocket incluia las expansiones que le daban mas chicha al juego. Tambien juntar todos los mapas en plan megabatalla me hacia el culo pepsicola

A 200 euros no me lo pillaba pero a 50 euros....ay omà...