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#5266
 
Cita de: Pez en 08 de Enero de 2012, 15:21:36
Sin conocer América y sólo Europa por encima, entiendo que quitando las estaciones ese problema está solucionado, no?

Correcto.
#5267
Genial  :D

Solo apuntar que hay un par o tres de imagenes del segundo mensaje que no se ven, no se si es fallo mio o del servidor de las fotos.


EDITO: ahora ya las veo.. los duendes de la informatica
#5268
Cita de: damosan en 07 de Enero de 2012, 12:28:25
La primera imagen si es el del mapa de la primera edicion. El de la segunda es este:

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1174516/war-of-the-ring?size=large

arreglado, gracias.

¿cuales eran las regiones donde no cabian las tropas?
#5269
ya lo dijo Amy Whinehouse

Spoiler
"Pregunté en la bsk si cambiaba el TTR  Europa por el USA

y me contestaron...

no no no " :D

Solo la tonteria de que te suenan mas las ciudades ya vale la pena. y aparte las reglas tienen algo mas de chicha.. en fin lo que ya te han dicho todos. No lo cambies


#5270
sigo el tema con interés porque me planteaba comprarmelo en español cuando saliera ( si sale) y me he estado mirando lo del mapa. Vaya por delante que no he jugado nunca, y solo he visto alguna vez el mapa de refilón.

Si estas imagenes que pongo son las correctas:


Tablero 1ª ed:



Tablero 2ª Ed




yo siempre primo la jugabilidad sobre la estetica, y si es verdad que el segundo tablero es mas práctico pero menos bonito.. bienvenido sea.

Como jugador " novato" que cogerá esta segunda edicion " desde cero" sin haber jugado ni conocido nunca la primera...creo que me va a gustar.
#5271
Sondeos / Re: Nuestros imprescindibles
05 de Enero de 2012, 11:29:51
Imprescindibles, para mi son los juegos de mi coleccion que si tuviera que salvar salvaría en primer lugar por diversos motivos, no necesariamente que sean los mejores juegos ( aunque si mayoritariamente)

La furia de Dracula
Hannibal Roma vs carthago
Circus Maximus
Dungeon Twister ( + Paladines y dragones.. van en la misma caja)
Struggle of empires
Los colonos de Catán
Aliens y expansión ( versión P&P los dos van en la misma caja)
Junta
Dorn
Space Hulk
#5272
¿ y qué tal un Galáctica, por tocar el palo de juegos con traidor?

#5273
creo que lo que buscas está aqui... juegos para dos, militares a ser posible

http://www.labsk.net/index.php?topic=79225.0
#5274
mirate este subforo

http://www.labsk.net/index.php?board=148.0


otras sugerencias así a bote pronto, para que jueguen juntas: ubongo, laberinto mágico (Devir) , laberinto ( ravensburguer)
#5275
sobre el concurso, date una vuelta por este hilo

http://www.labsk.net/index.php?topic=75973.0

sobre la fecha, la Fira depende de la semana santa:  40 dias despues del domingo de resurreccion, así que para 2012, y si no me equivoco, es muy probable que sea del 18 al 20 de mayo de 2012( aunque esto es sólo en teoria)

Saludos

#5276
Talleres / Re: q tal? I evento creando juegos
24 de Diciembre de 2011, 19:39:01
creo que hablas de este hilo

http://www.labsk.net/index.php?topic=57329.0


y te recomiendo tambien que uses la opcion " añadir a mis marcadores" para tener siempre a mano cualquier hilo que te parezca interesante.


Para saber mas sobre creadores españoles de juegos y sus actividades,  puedes pasarte por la web de LUDO

http://www.asociacionludo.com/blog/



un saludo
#5277
Dudas de Reglas / Los Colonos de Catán (Dudas)
23 de Diciembre de 2011, 12:54:33
Cita de: delpieroes en 23 de Diciembre de 2011, 12:44:29
¿Las cartas de puntos se deben "jugar? Es decir, pone que las cartas se pueden jugar en cualquier momento pero no en el mismo turno que se compran.

Mi duda es las cartas de puntos deben ser "jugadas" para que el punto tenga efecto o tiene efecto desde el momento en que se roba y se mantiene boca abajo, sin necesidad de esperar un turno para "jugarla" o "mostrarla".

El reglamento en ese sentido indica que las de puntos se guardan en secreto...

Saludos


En cuanto robas una carta de puntos, tu tienes 1 punto extra, otra cosa es que tus rivales lo desconozcan  :D No hace falta "jugarla"

Las cartas de puntos se enseñan al acabar. Puede ser que tengas por ejemplo 7 puntos "visibles" por poblados y  ciudades, y que tengas ademas 2 ocultos por tener dos cartas de puntuación ocultas. En el momento que consigas otro punto ,ya tienes 10 y levantas todas tus cartas de puntuación.
#5278
Cita de: Randast (Pedro Soto) en 23 de Diciembre de 2011, 09:41:29
Esta gente estaba en Essen aunque el juego aún no le habían sacado. Me quedé fascinado viendo los dibujillos de los personajes colgados por su stand y sólo por eso entro en mi güislist. Luego me enteré de que era un tipo de party multitudinario y entonces se refrenó el ansía (siempre está bien tener de estos pero luego no resulta tan sencillo sacarlos y si la caja es grande pues te ocupa un espacio en la estantería que podría ocupar algo más útil) pero aún así me llama la atención.

Horak, gracias, por recordarme su existencia.

gracias a Fantaside en todo caso.  ;)

La verdad es que a priori parece un juego divertido. Pero habrá que leerse las reglas a fondo y los roles. Eso si, las ilustraciones son una pasada
#5279


Gracias a Fantaside, en este hilo, me entero de un nuevo juego para grandes grupos, sin eliminación.

El último banquete para entre 6 y 24 jugadores




2 facciones palaciegas de igual número de componentes, intentará que este sea el último banquete del rey. El rey , en la soledad del trono, intentará desesperada ( y la mayoría de veces infructuosamente) defenderse.


en esta foto se ven algunos componentes. Los colgantes de unicornio, torre y rosa son los distintivos de las facciones. Cada jugador que pertenece a una facción, se cuelga el distintivo que le corresponde. Hay diversos escenarios, el básico es con 2 facciones+ familia real, pero pueden haber hasta 4 facciones si lo he entendido bien.




A modo de ejemplo:

Para 11 jugadores, hay dos facciones de 5 jugadores , y el Rey está solo.

Para 24 jugadores ( el máximo) , hay dos facciones de 10 miembros, y la familia real está formada por Rey , Reina, Princesa y primer caballero


Cada jugador selecciona un rol , con un poder determinado.luego cada grupo, en secreto, decide qué jugador es el asesino de su bando.

Los jugadores se sientan en circulo, el objetivo del juego es que el asesino de uno de los dos bandos se acabe sentando al lado del rey.. momento en el que le matará y dará la victoria a su bando. El rey tiene algunas acciones a su disposición, como vetos, para intentar defenderse.

La página web de la editorial es esta

http://www.gameheads.org/        en alemán e inglés.

por desgracia, las reglas para descarga están solo en en alemán, aqui

Pero en un ataque de frikismo desbocado, he usado el traductor online para traducir al ingles las primeras paginas, con una partida de ejemplo. Así os podreis hacer una idea del juego, mientras esperamos a una traducción mas completa.

Spoiler


páginas 2 y 3 del PDF (sólo parrafos de texto, no descripciones de trajetas o objetos)


" The last banquet and other courtly intrigues " is an interactive and communicative group game for 6 to 25 players. It can be played to different occasions, like birthdays, parties, weddings, youth trips, jubilees, conferences, seminars or simply so. The players form at beginning a game circle from seats (chairs, pillows, towels, etc). Besides, every player disposes of own clearly separated place. The fundamental rules enclose 5 sides and are to be thought in the title scenario " the last banquet " from page 7. The players divide themselves in different groups which pursue their own game aims according to scenario. They can scheme in the royal court, prove themselves at night and fog as couriers, inheritance affairs regulate or are also confronted with an apparition.

The game aims are reached by aimed exchanging and shifting of players and by skillful changing of the place order. A scepter herumgegebenes in the game circle determines, in this connection, the train order and marks the player active in each case. A game usually goes about several rounds, so that the players have several attempts to move the moves arranged in own group. At least once in every round every player is active and is included, besides, in the actions of the other players with. Every player takes part up to the end, there is not an elimination. If a party reaches their game aim, all players of this party win together.


According to scenario the players divide themselves in two or several parties and receive for their party own badge with a symbol (for example: unicorn, tower, rose, etc) on which itself every player puts. Then every player can select to himself a character ticket. The scenario gives the availability of the characters and the order of the assignment. On the character ticket information is specified to the represented person, their behavior and their action possibilities in the game.

Then every party for itself has opportunity to discuss the game aims of the scenario and to forge plans. In the title scenario " the last banquet " for example, the parties must have a certain person (dagger porter or poisonous porter) to a fixed moment (round end) near another certain person (king) platziert to be able to implement a business (assassination attempt). The players should familiarize themselves with the action possibilities of their own character ticket and to those of their fellow players and consider together which movements and combinations can lead to the success. In this connection, should be respected to the severest secrecy!

If all players agree, they place themselves in the prepared game circle and the host certain by the scenario (for example, the king) opens the game, while he gives the scepter to the left or on the right in the round. At the beginning of a game round all players stand on their place. A standing player can act if him the scepter reaches. After his action he sits down and hands on the scepter in the direction of travel certain by the host to the next player. An already sitting player who gets the scepter has already acted and passes through the scepter.

The following example round shows specified some moves and possibilities. The fundamental rules are to be thought in the title scenario " the last banquet ". An alphabetic glossary with general rules and notions is a part of this game manual and can be pulled up for explanation purposes with. Game tips, peculiarities and abnormalities of the basic rule which can be found in other scenarios are emphasized separately.


página 4 5 y 6 del PDF: ejemplo de partida

14 players have assembled to play the title scenario " the last banquet ". A circle from 14 seats is quickly constructed. Then all fellow players vote whether they want to play 2 and favour) with the menu rule or with all available actions (action possibility 1 +. Besides, become according to the description

of the scenario the character tickets the "king", the "queen", the scepter, the special subjects "poison" and "dagger", 6 veto markers and 6 party marks "rose" and "unicorn" laid out. All rest character tickets with the exception of the state crown also become for the players well visibly platziert.

Game aim:

for the king and his faithful: assassination attempt on the king prevent, lively driving observe, follow own intuition and mark the supposed assassins with the help of a special subject, to a veto marker of the king. For the parties: the chosen porter of dagger or poison (assassin) must be at the end of a game round near the king platziert to be able to implement his intention.

It goes off...

Harry should play the "king". He takes the appropriate character ticket, 6 veto markers as well as the scepter in himself. He gives to his friend Robert the character ticket "queen" who joins with it to the "king". The character ticket gives whether the player appears as a lady or man in the game and not the real gender of the player. As well well Isabelle could have represented the "king". Remaining 12 players divide themselves in two groups equal in size (2x6 player). A group gets from the king 6 roses as a party mark, the other 6 unicorns. After in this way every party is fixed, the players begin with the choice of their characters. Andrea,

as a follower of the party rose the character ticket "magician" chooses itself. Grinning Klaus, the friend of Andrea, but in the game to the party selects to himself unicorn belonging, the "duke". " One sees himself! " he says and steps aside over where the "unicorns" gather. Their friend Isabelle also a "rose" chooses the character "bard". Also all other fellow players select to themselves in the parties rose and unicorn alternately one character ticket.

"All" unicorns " to me! ", calls Klaus and waves the players of his party here. Now both parties group themselves a little bit apart of each other. The king passes unicorn the poison and the party rose the dagger to the party. Now the players of the parties have time to decide who will lead the involved weapon with himself and how the common action should look to have own assassin near the king platziert at the end of a game round successfully. Harry, as a king, uses the opportunity and to see tried who pockets the respective involved weapon.

But he has to do it with experienced players. At the crucial moment all members of the "rose" do so as if they pocketed a "card". Quickly he looks to the "unicorns", but these are already finished with their preparations. A questioning look goes to Robert, his "queen". But he shakes only lightly the head, also he could probably recognize also nothing of advantage.

Now on a mark of the king, all other players on a free place proceed and place themselves behind it. Then the king struts as a latter in the round and looks. Harry searches a positive start installation for himself. Among other things he would like that the "queen" does not come immediately to the row. Instead of proceeding on the last free place, he chooses to himself the place just towards the "queen" whom already the businessman has taken. The king scares away this with an impatient sign and the words " Henceforth with You, citizen. This place is due to the crown! " on the last still remained free place.

Now address the "king" his subjects with the words: " If you already eat from my gold plates, you should introduce yourselves at least short. " And, besides, he looks Sophie on the left from himself. " I am the witch ", says Sophie. " I am a freethinker (see appropriate symbol on the top right on the character ticket), she throws in the round. Then she looks the "king" directly and with a smile on the lips she directs the following words to him: " You are the center on which everything turns. " She uses for the game atmosphere, besides, a flattering tone to express the quality "flattering" of the witch.

After round also the other players have introduced themselves, now it is in the "king" to open the round. All players stand behind their place.

The "king" takes his scepter and gives it to the right to Rebecca, the "baroness". The direction of travel of the scepter has been fixed with it for this round by the king. Now the "baroness", as a porter of the scepter, is as an active player in the row. She decides action possibility to apply 2, turns to the duke and reads according to: " Once You should argue with the ideas of this person. They could be an advantage for our aims. I instruct the duke, itself on the right near the magician to platzieren. The "duke" leaves his place and takes the place assigned to him. He stops furthermore.

Of right near the "magician" there stands the witch. Now this must remove their place and changes to the former place of the duke. A skillful train, because now are on both sides of the "king" "unicorns" platziert. The action of the "baroness" is finished with it. The "baroness" sits down on their place and indicates with the fact that she was in this round already in the row. She transmits the scepter to the right in direction of travel to the next standing player the "sen sound".

He uses his action possibility 1: " All players of the state aristocracy, please, in the middle ", he calls. After these have appeared with the "sen sound", he distributes them a new to the free places. Besides, he removes skillfully the "duke" from the king and now sets the "baron" of his party near the "king". The "sen sound" finishes with it his train and also sits down where he stands. He transmits the scepter in direction of travel to the " white woman " on the right near himself.

Resolutely the player reads to the " white woman ": " I geistere to the place of the host and am frightened him a little and expel him of his place. … " Thereupon the "king" finds himself again near the "duke". Nevertheless, this seems very suspicious to the king. Therefore, the "king" for keeps it very much fitting that he gets now still just the scepter. (the " white woman " has taken the scepter with to their new place and has transmitted from there to the right in direction of travel. Because at the moment all players sit between " white woman " and king (on the right from the " white woman " and on the left from the king) already ("baroness" and "sen sound"), the king is the next standing player by whom the scepter arrives.

" We (the king speaks very much gladly in the third person of himself.) distrusts look after towards different persons in our round! " He arranges according to the rules shortly with the "queen" and then suspects the "duke" of the betrayal and hands over a veto marker with the words to him: " My duke, We has come to ears, you strive for the Königswürde. Be careful! Otherwise you feed the next years together with the rats in our dungeon! " On advising the queen the king still suspects a player of the other party of the betrayal. In addition he spends another veto marker for the "witch". " Should put your hand to a "king", the stake is certain to You. This is why you are also careful! " Then the "king" uses his action possibility 2 to go away from the "duke" and calls a place a little bit removed in the "duke".

However, some actions later, the "duke" is again near the ""queen and king" the scepter agrees in the hands. She frees the "king" from this possibly burned situation, while she exchanges the place with the "king".

Then the "duke" gets the scepter from the hand of the "queen". He raises the voice to the king. " My sponsor, I ask a favour for You! " " Duke, We is not to grant to You a favour, today you are too importunate to Us! " answers the king
and files from his supply a veto marker. Harry, as a king's player, is conscious that he has now only 3 veto markers, because he has applied 2 his veto markers for the distrust as a mark and another rejecting a favour. His veto markers must reach, possibly, still for two other game rounds, he should fall a victim before to none of the assassins. Nevertheless, he refuses the "duke" the favour, because he fears that him the otherwise " head and collar " could cost. The request around a favour was refused the "duke", he cannot play an action possibility now any more (Klaus than duke, has not expected, really that the "king" grants to him a favour, but the "king" should use a veto marker. If he survived this round, the loss of veto markers would weaken him for the other game course, so the consideration of Klaus). The train of the "duke" and this ends with it sits down. He transmits the scepter to the right.


Now the scepter arrives with the "bard Isabelle". " I play for the dance. All persons (out of members of the state crown) dance a place to the right. " Now so done, the "king" greets the "baron" near himself who still stands now as a single player and belongs to the party of the "rose". The scepter is passed up to the "baron".

Now it becomes dangerous. Since should the "baron" be the dagger porter as a "rose" to renounce bräuchte he only his action and to sit down there and then to be near the king in successful position. Should he use his action possibility to exchange his place with that of the "witch", this of all foresight would be after the dagger porter of the "roses". However, for it would get the ""king and queen" one victory point, because they have already marked the "witch" as a supposed dagger porter.Surprisingly the "baron" exchanges his place with the bard who sits now near the king and smiles at him confident of victory. And with it is also clear, why she has played for the dance and has moved with it the "baron" near the "king". The erspielte place exchange with the "baron" was their single chance to come still in this round near the "king". The "king" will not probably survive the hors-d'oeuvre and the victory point for the group goes with it to the party "rose".

Should the suspicion be confirmed, however that the duke was the poisonous porter of the party "unicorn", got the ""king and queen" for the exposure of the "duke" a victory point. If the smear of the "witch" had also been correct, would have got "king and queen" even 2 victory points. A good start for the running game evening and own points account.

Now on. If a scenario selects You and throws yourselves in the "courtly" life!






 

#5280
Número de jugadores / Re: Juegos para grandes grupos
22 de Diciembre de 2011, 16:47:04
Cita de: Fantaside en 22 de Diciembre de 2011, 15:42:11
Tengo hechado el ojo a este de 6-25 jugadores:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/85394/das-letzte-bankett

Parece ser una especie de Werewolf con escenarios , ambientado en una cena medieval ,con atentado por envenenamiento al rey incluido.Está muy bien valorado y las ilustraciones son maravillosas... ¿Alguien lo conoce?

no...pero me han entrado muchas ganas...  :B